Les listes Top Tier
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Elementz a aussi fait une liste pour le solo queue ICI :
* Tier 1 – Sona, Miss Fortune, Twitch, Warwick, Kennen, Pantheon, Corki, Cho’Gath, Xin Zhao, Nidalee, Rammus, Garen, Gragas, Vlad, Kassadin, Shaco.
* Tier 2 – Morde, Tristana, Kog’Maw, Annie, Morgana, Zilean, Sion, Akali, Mundo, Master Yi, Teemo, Udyr, Ashe, Karthus, Heimerdinger.
* Tier 3 – Malzahar, Anivia, Alistar, Fiddlesticks, Sivir, Poppy, Shen, Ryze, Galio, Singed, Eve, Olaf, Janna, Amumu, Malphite, Swain, Leblanc, Nunu, Taric, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Urgot
* Tier 4 – Twisted Fate, Veigar, Tyrndamere, Katarina, Nasus, Ezreal, Kayle, Jax, Gangplank, Lux.
* Tier 1 – Sona, Miss Fortune, Twitch, Warwick, Kennen, Pantheon, Corki, Cho’Gath, Xin Zhao, Nidalee, Rammus, Garen, Gragas, Vlad, Kassadin, Shaco.
* Tier 2 – Morde, Tristana, Kog’Maw, Annie, Morgana, Zilean, Sion, Akali, Mundo, Master Yi, Teemo, Udyr, Ashe, Karthus, Heimerdinger.
* Tier 3 – Malzahar, Anivia, Alistar, Fiddlesticks, Sivir, Poppy, Shen, Ryze, Galio, Singed, Eve, Olaf, Janna, Amumu, Malphite, Swain, Leblanc, Nunu, Taric, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Urgot
* Tier 4 – Twisted Fate, Veigar, Tyrndamere, Katarina, Nasus, Ezreal, Kayle, Jax, Gangplank, Lux.
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Malzahar top tier 3 !
Merde moi qui croyais encore à un buf !
Je confirme en solo Galio est super chaud à jouer.
Merde moi qui croyais encore à un buf !
Je confirme en solo Galio est super chaud à jouer.
Le Mat- Messages : 598
Date d'inscription : 31/05/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
bah ca parait logique...
Tf, Galio, c'est des persos qui ont besoin d'une comm particuliere et d'une equipe bien particuliere pour evoluer correctement...
les tp non suivis ou les ultis a 1 vs 5, ca doitpululer en solo queue...
Tf, Galio, c'est des persos qui ont besoin d'une comm particuliere et d'une equipe bien particuliere pour evoluer correctement...
les tp non suivis ou les ultis a 1 vs 5, ca doitpululer en solo queue...
KuroPotter- Messages : 336
Date d'inscription : 15/06/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Elementz 24/11/2010 (draft premade) :
* Tier 1: Janna, Sona, Galio, Morgana, Miss Fortune, Ashe, Corki, Warwick, Anivia, Annie, Taric, Shen, Amumu.
* Tier 2: Kennen, Tristana, Twitch, Kog’Maw, Kassadin, Zilean, Twisted Fate, Garen, Rammus, Xin Zhao, Udyr, Vladimir, Olaf, Gragas.
* Tier 3: Malphite, Poppy, Sivir, Pantheon, Shaco, Karthus, Mordekaiser, Veigar, Akali, Sion, Nunu, Irelia, Heimerdinger, Singed Yi, Fiddlesticks.
* Tier 4: Cho’Gath, Teemo, Leblanc, Ezreal, Nasus, Kayle, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Gangplank, Nidalee, Jax, Eve.
* Hard to place on a team: Lux, Swain, Katarina, Alistar, Ryze, Urgot, Mal’zahar, Tryndamere, Mundo.
changements :
* Tier 1: Janna, Sona, Galio, Morgana, Miss Fortune, Ashe, Corki, Warwick, Anivia, Annie, Taric, Shen, Amumu.
* Tier 2: Kennen, Tristana, Twitch, Kog’Maw, Kassadin, Zilean, Twisted Fate, Garen, Rammus, Xin Zhao, Udyr, Vladimir, Olaf, Gragas.
* Tier 3: Malphite, Poppy, Sivir, Pantheon, Shaco, Karthus, Mordekaiser, Veigar, Akali, Sion, Nunu, Irelia, Heimerdinger, Singed Yi, Fiddlesticks.
* Tier 4: Cho’Gath, Teemo, Leblanc, Ezreal, Nasus, Kayle, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Gangplank, Nidalee, Jax, Eve.
* Hard to place on a team: Lux, Swain, Katarina, Alistar, Ryze, Urgot, Mal’zahar, Tryndamere, Mundo.
changements :
- Spoiler:
- Janna moved to top of tier 1 – Janna was moved above Sona for a couple of reasons. AoE CC + DPS is how you win games right now. The way to make sure you don’t get AoE CC + DPSed down through people just pressing R at the same time is Janna. She’s currently the only way to counter AoE teams almost making her priceless in sort of way. Now that some of the OP champs have been nerfed a bit more I feel her sitting at the top is justified. She’s also an excellent baby sitter and a free BF sword + HP absorb in team fights is always amazing. Janna your spot has been well earned.
Ashe moved up in tier 1 – I find that her volley to be just an amazing poke. For instance combined with Janna and blue buff you will pick apart the enemy team at their tower. It also makes it very difficult to initiate when you’re constantly slowed. The kite game is picking up steam now and Ashe is by far the #1 kiter / poker in the game right now. I feel moving her up on the draft list make sense as the game shifts a bit.
Corki moved down in tier 1 – He got nerfed. Plain and simple. He’s still easily a tier 1 champion but defiantly not the best ranged carry in the game anymore.
Zilean moved up in tier 2 – His solo lane control combined with his ability to basically put a (Lol I dare you to kill this person and see what happens!) ulti on someone is amazing. People always underestimate the power of his early game bomb harass and often die because of it. To me he’s like an unsung hero. No one really plays him but he’s so awesome. He’s behind the scenes kicking ass while everyone goes bonkers over the current FOTM champions. Zil is awesome and I think he deserved to be moved up a bit.
Gragas moved to bottom of tier 2 – Granted he’s FOTM but there’s a strategy that seems to be catching on. Throwing a tank vs a AP or AD carry and have the tank(Gragas) just deny and crush the person in the lane. They have such strong early games and survivability that it makes them a viable choice for a solo lane. I find Gragas to be much more useful outside of the laning phase then the other tanks though. His ability to completely screw up a team fight with his Explosive Cask which also works as an initiate is awesome. Not to mention his mobility is insane combined with a decent about of poking and DPS in a team fight. I had Gragas too low for too long. Tank Gragas and hybrid AP/Tank Gragas’s really do kick some ass.
Shaco moved up in tier 3 -The more I see this champion the more I hate him. The only reason he’s so low is because his early game is easy to screw up by popping boxes and the fact that he’s squishy. Otherwise he’s the king of jungle control and the king of ganking. He’s so incredibly annoying and does so much damage as well. He’s very underrated by the community I find.
Karthus moved up in tier 3 – Karthus is sorta like Zilean in the sense that you don’t see many of them but when you see a good you go “Holy fuck!” and then next game you pick Karth, feed, and go “Man Karth sucks!”. When in reality Karth just has a larger learning curve then most champions and he’s actually quite good. He lanes very well and his ability to do PvE objectives such as Dragon and Baron are very underrated. His Q + E do insane damage to both. Along with when you do and you have the enemy team fight on top of your corpse. Picking up 3-4 kills when I am dead always makes me laugh. Not many people realize that Karthus has INCREDIBLE dps. If you stand near him when he’s dead he will kill you too. He’s a target you can’t leave alone but at the same time if you focus him first and fight near where you killed him you will pay for it. I feel he should be pushed up on the list because of this.
Heimerdinger moved down in tier 3 – I find his turrets are dying too quickly and he’s just not as viable as he once was. He’s still quite viable in solo queue but I am finding him more and more on the meh side now. He doesn’t scale very well into late game either. His dominance is mostly early hence him being higher on my Solo Queue tier list. Becuase of that reason of not having a very good late game I find he should sink down on the list a bit more. Most competitive games last 40 mins + and at that point having Dinger on your team is often not the best choice. You must utilize his insane farming ability and early game strength if you expect to win with him on your team.
Malphite moved to top of tier 3 -Now some of you may be wondering.. WHAT THE BALLS WHY ISN’T HE TIER 1! Well you must remember this is a Draft Mode tier list and not a Solo Queue tier list. They are completely different types of games. I can assure you he will be higher on my Solo Queue list. As for why tier 3 and why Gragas is tier 2. I find Malph to only have early game strength for the most part where as Gragas is strong through-out the whole game. Malphites dominance early is massive but his mid game is meh and his late game is blah I find. If you compare him to other tanks they all do more than him late game. Sure he’s good for a CC and some decent DPS but after he blows his ulti I find him in a team fight to be extremely lack luster. He’s a risk I find taking in a competitive game because if you don’t own it up with him early your team is really in the hole now for picking him.
Cho’Gath moved to top of tier 4 – Cho, like Malphite and Gragas serves the purpose of dominating a lane. I know he can be viable now in that sense for competitive play I am just unsure how viable he is for that yet. I will move him into tier 4 for now but it will take me some time to properly assess where he should be on the list. I know he’s viable, just not sure how viable he is yet!
AND ITS NOW TIME FOR!!! WHERE THE HELL DOES THAT NEW CHAMP LAND ON ELEMENTZ TIER LIST!!!! /drum roll
Irelia – She lands in tier 3! Because she’s not OP and she’s not UP! She’s actually a decent laning champion and can do some pretty good burst. I find it best to max out her Q and her E first before W and only getting W as the game goes late as it’s not that great of an early game skill but an amazing late game skill. Her DPS is pretty strong but her mobility and survivability I find are lacking a bit for the kind of champion she is. If those two area’s were a bit better I am sure she would be a lot higher. For now she will reside in tier 3!
makemashita- Messages : 559
Date d'inscription : 31/05/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
MaJ de la list solo queue d'Elementz, 25/11 :
* Tier 1 – Sona, Miss Fortune, Twitch, Warwick, Kennen, Shaco, Pantheon, Corki, Cho’Gath, Malphite, Rammus, Garen, Gragas, Vlad, Kassadin.
* Tier 2 – Morde, Tristana, Kog’Maw, Annie, Morgana, Zilean, Sion, Janna, Akali, Mundo, Xin Zhao, Nidalee, Master Yi, Teemo, Anivia, Udyr, Ashe, Karthus.
* Tier 3 – Malzahar, Lux, Irelia, Alistar, Fiddlesticks, Sivir, Poppy, Shen, Ryze, Galio, Singed, Eve, Olaf, Amumu, Swain, Leblanc, Nunu, Taric, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Heimerdinger.
* Tier 4 – Twisted Fate, Veigar, Tyrndamere, Katarina, Nasus, Ezreal, Kayle, Jax, Gangplank, Urgot
———————– CHANGE LOG! ———————
* Tier 1 – Sona, Miss Fortune, Twitch, Warwick, Kennen, Shaco, Pantheon, Corki, Cho’Gath, Malphite, Rammus, Garen, Gragas, Vlad, Kassadin.
* Tier 2 – Morde, Tristana, Kog’Maw, Annie, Morgana, Zilean, Sion, Janna, Akali, Mundo, Xin Zhao, Nidalee, Master Yi, Teemo, Anivia, Udyr, Ashe, Karthus.
* Tier 3 – Malzahar, Lux, Irelia, Alistar, Fiddlesticks, Sivir, Poppy, Shen, Ryze, Galio, Singed, Eve, Olaf, Amumu, Swain, Leblanc, Nunu, Taric, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Heimerdinger.
* Tier 4 – Twisted Fate, Veigar, Tyrndamere, Katarina, Nasus, Ezreal, Kayle, Jax, Gangplank, Urgot
———————– CHANGE LOG! ———————
- Spoiler:
- Anivia moved up to tier 2 – I had her in tier 3 before and that was just too low for her. Regardless of her harder than average laning phase and weak early game if Anivia get’s a few kills and manages to keep up in CS she will hit incredibly hard. She’s defiantly a tier 2 at least Solo Queue champion.
Urgot moved down to tier 4 – Lol. I don’t know what I was thinking. I was trying to be fair. I was trying the think of the positives he had and let’s face the facts. He’s just awful and that’s it. I am sorry for trolling and putting him into tier 3 people. My bad, my bad XD.
Heimerdinger moved down to tier 3 – I feel like I put a little too much faith into dinger as he really isn’t as good as I thought. Only having 2 turrets really sucks. Although he does shine vs some team comps. Generally he’s pretty beastly early game but his late game scaling is really poor. Hell his mid game scaling is poor too and you really gotta be farmed to pack a punch on dinger these days. I feel he’s just not the best choice currently for this style of lane dominance meta.
Janna moved up to tier 2 – Janna is the queen wind support slut. Always has, always will be. I had her too low for Solo Queue list. She wins games with the support she gives in Solo Queue. She was defiantly placed way too low.
Malphite moved up to tier 1 – Okay well this one was obvious. Ridiculously strong laning phase and incredibly strong early game. This boy is the king of shutting down people in lanes. He’s hard to kill and he’s hard stand vs as his Q harass hurts quite a lot! If the person you’re laning against doesn’t have the proper runes or masteries to face you that’s pretty much GG in that lane.
Xin Zhao moved down to tier 2 – He’s not tier 1 material. He was too high. He’s good overall but his strength really comes from countering AD champions in lane. He gets shut down pretty hard by a lot of CC and caster damage. He’s good if you pick him normally, and he’s amazing if you pick him vs a team that doesn’t have a lot to stop him and a lot of AD damage on the team. This is where he shines.
Nidalee moved down to tier 2 – Same as Xin. Great Solo Queue champion but really shines when it’s vs the right champions. For instance. If the other team picks Vlad. Pick Nidalee and crush the Vlad with Nidalee and make him your bitch all game long. When Nida is up against the right champions in lane she’s beyond amazing. Otherwise just a good overall champ.
Shaco moved up in tier 1 – I don’t care what anyone says with all the “Shaco nerfs” and “oh my god Elementz you noob Shaco sucks now!” Shaco is the god damn king of Solo Queue jungle. He solo’s Baron and Dragon with ease and he’s also the king of ganking. Those two things WIN Solo Queue games the most. Early ganks for snowball surrenders and then if it goes late he can solo Baron over and over and just win it for your team. I hate him so much and he’s still so powerful in Solo Queue.
Lux moved up to tier 3 – She’s not as bad as I previously thought and she’s also very, very fun to play. Combo hitting someone with a Q,E,R combo is just delightful. I can’t get enough of her ulti. She’s actually a pretty decent caster carry. There’s obviously better choices but she’s defiantly nothing to QQ over if someone on your team picked her.
Irelia placed into tier 3 – Just as I said on my Draft Mode list. She’s not OP and she’s not UP. If someone really knows how to play lane or jungle Irelia let them do it because she’s defiantly not a bad champ to have on your team. If she gets farmed enough and your game turns late she’s actually an AMAZING carry. By stacking attack speed and using her active on W hitting for 75 true damage a hit. God damn that’s good. Survive early game and keep your farm up and you’ll actually have a pretty damn good champion on your hands. Max Q and E early game for good burst and don’t worry about W until late game!
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Urgot gagne pour Elementz le prix du perso le plus pourrit quelque soit la configuration de jeu.
Le Mat- Messages : 598
Date d'inscription : 31/05/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Elementz a enfin subdivisé sa liste par catégories !
So as you can see I’ve made some categories that champions fall under. I tried to put them into specific ones for the roles they are best at but a lot of champions fall under several categories so if you see a champion in more than one don’t worry too much about it
This is going to be an ongoing thing that I am going to work on. I will define it, make it better, make it more clear as I learn more about the game and think about each champion’s best strengths. I will eventually have it to where the champions are correctly placed at the top if their respected category instead of putting them in tiers right from my list. For instance Pantheon is the #1 melee DPS now but he sits in the top of tier 2. I want to change that so it’s clear he’s the top of that category. When I have some more time I will redo this and change it.
So with all that being said. I hope this clears up my tier list a bit and makes it easier to understand why champions are placed in each tier.
* Tier 1: Anivia, Sivir, Ashe, Corki, Annie, Warwick, Shen, Janna, Sona, Taric, Kennen, Rammus
* Tier 2: Pantheon, Tristana, Twitch, Kog’Maw, Miss Fortune, Morgana, Kassadin, Zilean, Garen, Amumu, Shaco, Xin Zhao, Udyr, Vladimir, Olaf, Gragas.
* Tier 3: Cho’Gath, Malphite, Twisted Fate, Poppy, Karthus, Trundle, Mordekaiser, Veigar, Akali, Sion, Nunu, Irelia, Galio, Heimerdinger, Singed, Yi, Fiddlesticks.
* Tier 4: Teemo, Lux, Leblanc, Ezreal, Nasus, Kayle, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Gangplank, Nidalee, Jax, Eve.
* Hard to place on a team: Swain, Katarina, Alistar, Ryze, Urgot, Mal’zahar, Tryndamere, Mundo.
Caster Carry: These champions deal Spell damage and offer a lot of utility to your team. For the most part they don’t rely on auto attacking and only spell casts.
Tier 1 – Anivia, Annie, Kennen
Tier 2 – Morgana, Kassadin, Zilean, Vladimir
Tier 3 - Karthus, Veigar, Sion, Heimerdinger, Fiddlesticks
Tier 4 – Lux, Leblanc
Hard to place – Swain, Ryze, Mal’zahar
Physical Ranged Carries: These champions deal Physical damage and most of their damage comes from auto attacking. The utility they bring is mostly ranged powerful attacks or pokes.
Tier 1 – Sivir, Ashe, Corki
Tier 2 – Tristana, Twitch, Kog’Maw, Miss Fortune
Tier 3 – Twisted Fate
Tier 4 – Teemo, Ezreal, Kayle
Hard to place – …
Melee DPS is being split into two groups as a lot of them fall into both categories. Laning Melee DPS and Junglers.
Laning Melee DPS: These champions deal Physical damage and often have to get up in champions faces to deal the majority of their damage. These champions do best in the lane.
Tier 1 – …
Tier 2 – Pantheon, Shaco, Xin Zhao,
Tier 3 – Irelia, Akali
Tier 4 – Gangplank, Jax
Hard to place – Tryndamere, Mundo
Junglers: These champions are often found clearing the jungle early game and are used for their ability to gank, control the jungle, and overall team utility.
Tier 1 – Warwick, Rammus
Tier 2 – Amumu, Shaco, Xin Zhao, Udyr, Olaf
Tier 3 – Malphite, Trundle, Akali, Nunu, Irelia, Yi
Tier 4 – Eve
Hard to place – Tryndamere, Mundo
Support: These champions offer a lot of utility to a team in terms of crowd control, heals, and shields.
Tier 1 – Janna, Sona, Taric
Tier 2 – Morgana, Zilean
Tier 3 – …
Tier 4 – Lux, Kayle, Soraka, Nidalee
Hard to place – …
Tanks: These champions are the ones that should be generally initiating fights, and always be in the front to absorb damage or CC the other team.
Tier 1 – Shen, Rammus
Tier 2 – Garen, Amumu, Udyr, Olaf, Gragas
Tier 3 – Cho’Gath, Malphite, Trundle, Mordekaiser, Nunu, Galio, Singed
Tier 4 – Nasus, Blitzcrank
Hard to place – Alistar
Sub-Categories: These categories aren’t the main roles but still serve a purpose in competitive play.
Assassin/Anti Carry: These champions excel in destroying one champion or disabling them for long periods of time. They offer very strong single target utility in terms of damage or crowd control.
Tier 1 – Warwick, Rammus
Tier 2 – Kassadin, Garen, Olaf
Tier 3 – Cho’Gath, Malphite, Poppy, Veigar, Akali
Tier 4 – Leblanc, Nasus, Eve.
Hard to place – Mal’zahar, Urgot
Bruisers: The champions are generally beefy in terms of stats and survivability combined with the ability to lane/CS very well and deny/kill the other champions in lane.
Tier 1 – ..
Tier 2 – Garen, Gragas
Tier 3 – Cho’Gath, Malphite, Mordekaiser, Sion
Tier 4 – ..
Hard to place – Mundo
Counter- Jungle: These champions take smite and often try and steal neutral creeps and buffs for themselves well trying to kill the jungler. Often causing a lot of havoc between lanes and annoyance to the jungler.
Now this category is interesting because I don’t know a lot about it but I know it is something that is used. There will only be a few champions here for now.
Tier 1 – ..
Tier 2 – Shaco
Tier 3 – Poppy, Nunu
Tier 4 – Blitzcrank
Hard to place – Mundo
Oddball Roles: Nidalee - Now she fits into so many roles its extremely hard to place her one. I placed her in support because I feel that kind of suited her best with her map control and heal. I mean she cleans up fights well, she pokes well, she has map control, she can heal quite well, great lane control. She’s just such an oddball role. So any champion I have a hard time placing will go here and I will explain the best I can.
EDIT : Avec le change log
So as you can see I’ve made some categories that champions fall under. I tried to put them into specific ones for the roles they are best at but a lot of champions fall under several categories so if you see a champion in more than one don’t worry too much about it
This is going to be an ongoing thing that I am going to work on. I will define it, make it better, make it more clear as I learn more about the game and think about each champion’s best strengths. I will eventually have it to where the champions are correctly placed at the top if their respected category instead of putting them in tiers right from my list. For instance Pantheon is the #1 melee DPS now but he sits in the top of tier 2. I want to change that so it’s clear he’s the top of that category. When I have some more time I will redo this and change it.
So with all that being said. I hope this clears up my tier list a bit and makes it easier to understand why champions are placed in each tier.
* Tier 1: Anivia, Sivir, Ashe, Corki, Annie, Warwick, Shen, Janna, Sona, Taric, Kennen, Rammus
* Tier 2: Pantheon, Tristana, Twitch, Kog’Maw, Miss Fortune, Morgana, Kassadin, Zilean, Garen, Amumu, Shaco, Xin Zhao, Udyr, Vladimir, Olaf, Gragas.
* Tier 3: Cho’Gath, Malphite, Twisted Fate, Poppy, Karthus, Trundle, Mordekaiser, Veigar, Akali, Sion, Nunu, Irelia, Galio, Heimerdinger, Singed, Yi, Fiddlesticks.
* Tier 4: Teemo, Lux, Leblanc, Ezreal, Nasus, Kayle, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Gangplank, Nidalee, Jax, Eve.
* Hard to place on a team: Swain, Katarina, Alistar, Ryze, Urgot, Mal’zahar, Tryndamere, Mundo.
Caster Carry: These champions deal Spell damage and offer a lot of utility to your team. For the most part they don’t rely on auto attacking and only spell casts.
Tier 1 – Anivia, Annie, Kennen
Tier 2 – Morgana, Kassadin, Zilean, Vladimir
Tier 3 - Karthus, Veigar, Sion, Heimerdinger, Fiddlesticks
Tier 4 – Lux, Leblanc
Hard to place – Swain, Ryze, Mal’zahar
Physical Ranged Carries: These champions deal Physical damage and most of their damage comes from auto attacking. The utility they bring is mostly ranged powerful attacks or pokes.
Tier 1 – Sivir, Ashe, Corki
Tier 2 – Tristana, Twitch, Kog’Maw, Miss Fortune
Tier 3 – Twisted Fate
Tier 4 – Teemo, Ezreal, Kayle
Hard to place – …
Melee DPS is being split into two groups as a lot of them fall into both categories. Laning Melee DPS and Junglers.
Laning Melee DPS: These champions deal Physical damage and often have to get up in champions faces to deal the majority of their damage. These champions do best in the lane.
Tier 1 – …
Tier 2 – Pantheon, Shaco, Xin Zhao,
Tier 3 – Irelia, Akali
Tier 4 – Gangplank, Jax
Hard to place – Tryndamere, Mundo
Junglers: These champions are often found clearing the jungle early game and are used for their ability to gank, control the jungle, and overall team utility.
Tier 1 – Warwick, Rammus
Tier 2 – Amumu, Shaco, Xin Zhao, Udyr, Olaf
Tier 3 – Malphite, Trundle, Akali, Nunu, Irelia, Yi
Tier 4 – Eve
Hard to place – Tryndamere, Mundo
Support: These champions offer a lot of utility to a team in terms of crowd control, heals, and shields.
Tier 1 – Janna, Sona, Taric
Tier 2 – Morgana, Zilean
Tier 3 – …
Tier 4 – Lux, Kayle, Soraka, Nidalee
Hard to place – …
Tanks: These champions are the ones that should be generally initiating fights, and always be in the front to absorb damage or CC the other team.
Tier 1 – Shen, Rammus
Tier 2 – Garen, Amumu, Udyr, Olaf, Gragas
Tier 3 – Cho’Gath, Malphite, Trundle, Mordekaiser, Nunu, Galio, Singed
Tier 4 – Nasus, Blitzcrank
Hard to place – Alistar
Sub-Categories: These categories aren’t the main roles but still serve a purpose in competitive play.
Assassin/Anti Carry: These champions excel in destroying one champion or disabling them for long periods of time. They offer very strong single target utility in terms of damage or crowd control.
Tier 1 – Warwick, Rammus
Tier 2 – Kassadin, Garen, Olaf
Tier 3 – Cho’Gath, Malphite, Poppy, Veigar, Akali
Tier 4 – Leblanc, Nasus, Eve.
Hard to place – Mal’zahar, Urgot
Bruisers: The champions are generally beefy in terms of stats and survivability combined with the ability to lane/CS very well and deny/kill the other champions in lane.
Tier 1 – ..
Tier 2 – Garen, Gragas
Tier 3 – Cho’Gath, Malphite, Mordekaiser, Sion
Tier 4 – ..
Hard to place – Mundo
Counter- Jungle: These champions take smite and often try and steal neutral creeps and buffs for themselves well trying to kill the jungler. Often causing a lot of havoc between lanes and annoyance to the jungler.
Now this category is interesting because I don’t know a lot about it but I know it is something that is used. There will only be a few champions here for now.
Tier 1 – ..
Tier 2 – Shaco
Tier 3 – Poppy, Nunu
Tier 4 – Blitzcrank
Hard to place – Mundo
Oddball Roles: Nidalee - Now she fits into so many roles its extremely hard to place her one. I placed her in support because I feel that kind of suited her best with her map control and heal. I mean she cleans up fights well, she pokes well, she has map control, she can heal quite well, great lane control. She’s just such an oddball role. So any champion I have a hard time placing will go here and I will explain the best I can.
EDIT : Avec le change log
- Spoiler:
- Galio moved down to tier 3 – This last nerf was WAY too much. Last patch Galio was 100% fine. This nerf has gone too far imo and it’s really hurt him a lot. I found him to be perfectly balanced last patch and Riot decided to hit him hard again. This game is seriously lacking good side lane champions for competitive play. Riot just took away a great one.
Janna moved down in tier 1 – Other champions out shine her in terms of being a higher pick is all. Still an awesome support but the nerfs did hurt her.
Sona moved down in tier 1 – Other champions out shine her in terms of being a higher pick is all. Still an awesome support but the nerfs did hurt her.
Morgana moved down to tier 2 – I’ve been actually thinking Morgana to be a tier 2 champion for some time. With the recent nerfs I’d say she definitely is a tier 2 pick now. The shield nerfs hurts a lot but it was necessary.
Miss Fortune moved down to tier 2 – She’s received quite a few nerfs over lately and it’s showing. With the nerf to range carries and her just being nerfed in general I don’t see her as a tier 1 pick anymore and she’s melded in with the other carries in tier 2.
Pantheon moved up to tier 2 – An amazing lane dominating champion who’s received some love in the last patch that has made him much more viable. Combine those buffs with him being able to also have a global gank and you got yourself one well rounded champion now.
Amumu moved down to tier 2 - Since the nerfs to AoE he got hit pretty hard. He was already a semi weak jungler that had great team fighting power. Now since the nerfs he’s still good just not tier 1 pick worthy anymore.
Kennen moved up to tier 1 – I feel he’s a tier 1 champion now. Due all the general nerfs a lot of champions received I feel like he’s now powerful enough to be a tier one champion. He’s always had good lane control, and excellent team fight ability but I never thought he had that little extra bit to be a tier 1 champ. Now that others have fallen down, he can take their place in tier 1.
Twisted Fate moved down to tier 3 – He’s exactly the same as he was but as the game shifts I feel he’s not as high of a priority for a pick. He’s less needed hence him dropping down a tier.
Lux moved to tier 4 – I don’t see her being used as anything but a side lane champion. She’s got a pretty good laning phase and when paired with the right champion she can actually do pretty good in a side lane.
Cho’Gath moved to top of tier 3 – I find he works quite well vs a lot of champions and he’s a great pick to counter a lot of lane dominating champions. If the other team picks Malph, Panth, Gragas, etc.. these very strong laning champions he’s a perfect counter to them because of his passive. He’s extremely hard to force out of a lane. He also counters a lot of AD and AP carries in lane. He’s kind of like the unsung hero haha, comes in out of no where and gets the job done behind the scenes.
Shaco moved up to tier 2 – Beyond godlike ganks, beyond godlike counter jungle, beyond godlike jungle control. If it weren’t for him running around with 1000 HP I’d put him higher. But he’s extremely squishy and takes a crap load of skill to use correctly. When he is used correctly though he’s devastating to the other team.
Rammus moved to tier 1 – I find Rammus to be like Shaco in terms of the fear he puts in your team. Kind of like a “OH MY GOD WE’VE OVEREXTENDED SLIGHTY, RAMMUS IS GONNA MURDER US RUN FOR YA LIVES!”. Same kinda vibe Shaco gives. Then Rammus turns out to be a sick tank/anti carry for your team. He also has a lot of map control due to his very fast speed. This boy is tier 1 now with the recent nerfs all around.
Sivir moved to tier 1 – Now people might wonder why Sivir is almost the top of tier 1 out of no where. Well, no one played her much so she went unnoticed for a long time. Then she got a bit of buffs and everyone started playing her again. Now there’s a reason Sivir is so strong. It’s not that she dominates her lane, or has an amazing hero killing skill set. It’s her ability to farm a lot, combined with Ricochet which makes her strong. Lots of competitive games last for 40-50 mins +. Who has 300 CS with a team supporting her? Sivir does. The reason she works so well is because she’s extremely hard to stop from farming. Just Q + a couple of auto attacks and the wave is clear. She can run from lane to lane doing this. Then when you get a team to actually support her, and a team that allows her to auto attack, she deals a MASSIVE amount of damage in a team fight. If you have the right team comp to support Sivir and you manage to make it to late game with her. There’s not much a team can do vs her awesome auto attacks. She’s not a pub stomper, she’s a pro stomper because once she hits late game, not a lot of things can stop her.
Anivia moved to top of tier 1 – Anivia is like AP Sivir. They both have alright early games but then they farm a crap load and out of nowhere “OH MY GOD THE DPS!” kind of deal. They shine so much late game is why they’re so high on the list. Lots of competitive games go late and Sivir and Anivia are the queens of late game in their respected roles as top AP and AD carry. Again it’s not because she pubstomps, it’s because with a good team supporting her she’s good. If Anivia or Sivir don’t get support you are no where near as powerful. It takes a good team to fully use Anivia and Sivir correctly.
AND ITS NOW TIME FOR!!! WHERE THE HELL DOES THAT NEW CHAMP LAND ON ELEMENTZ TIER LIST!!!! /drum roll
Trundle placed in tier 3 – I find not a lot of people play him as of yet and not a lot of people truly understand how to play him. I am sure sometime in the future people will figure it out and he will move up a bit. Until then I will leave him here because this is where I see he would fit. He’s got an AMAZING skill set for survivability, and he can anti carry quite well too. His Pillar of Filth is an awesome ability as well. Placing it on whoever you want to kill or even using it for some clutch blocks. He can also gank quite well from the jungle with his skillset. Movespeed/attack speed buff check, giant pillar of slow/win check, a lunge forward that deals extra damage? Check check check. He’s actually quite a good champion but I will need to see more for a better assessment.
makemashita- Messages : 559
Date d'inscription : 31/05/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Mise à jour le 20 décembre des premade 5v5.
* Tier 1: Anivia, Sivir, Ashe, Corki, Annie, Warwick, Shen, Janna, Taric, Kennen, Rammus
* Tier 2: Tristana, Kog’Maw, Miss Fortune, Morgana, Kassadin, Zilean, Xin Zhao, Sona, Amumu, Shaco, Udyr, Vladimir, Olaf.
* Tier 3: Cho’Gath, Malphite, Pantheon, Twisted Fate, Poppy, Ezreal, Kayle, Karthus, Trundle, Eve, Mordekaiser, Veigar, Akali, Sion, Nunu, Gragas, Irelia, Singed, Yi.
* Tier 4: Teemo, Lux, Leblanc, Nasus, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Gangplank, Garen, Nidalee, Jax, Fiddlesticks.
* Hard to place on a team: Swain, Alistar, Twitch, Ryze, Urgot, Mal’zahar, Tryndamere, Mundo, Galio, Heimerdinger, Katarina, Cassiopeia.
* Tier 1: Anivia, Sivir, Ashe, Corki, Annie, Warwick, Shen, Janna, Taric, Kennen, Rammus
* Tier 2: Tristana, Kog’Maw, Miss Fortune, Morgana, Kassadin, Zilean, Xin Zhao, Sona, Amumu, Shaco, Udyr, Vladimir, Olaf.
* Tier 3: Cho’Gath, Malphite, Pantheon, Twisted Fate, Poppy, Ezreal, Kayle, Karthus, Trundle, Eve, Mordekaiser, Veigar, Akali, Sion, Nunu, Gragas, Irelia, Singed, Yi.
* Tier 4: Teemo, Lux, Leblanc, Nasus, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Gangplank, Garen, Nidalee, Jax, Fiddlesticks.
* Hard to place on a team: Swain, Alistar, Twitch, Ryze, Urgot, Mal’zahar, Tryndamere, Mundo, Galio, Heimerdinger, Katarina, Cassiopeia.
Le Mat- Messages : 598
Date d'inscription : 31/05/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
La liste des hard to place on a team augmente....
Malza toujours dans les derniers.... Cool ! Encore un Up ! Encore un Up !
EDIT admin : Je profite de ce message complètement inutile pour mettre le change log.
Malza toujours dans les derniers.... Cool ! Encore un Up ! Encore un Up !
EDIT admin : Je profite de ce message complètement inutile pour mettre le change log.
- Spoiler:
- *—–* CHANGE LOG *—–*
Sona moved down to tier 2 – The locket removal and nerfs she’s received hit her pretty good. She’s lost a lot of viability but I think she’s still a pretty strong support champion. Just not tier 1 worthy anymore.
Pantheon moved down to tier 3 – He was only moved up to tier 2 before because of his insanely broken HSS damage again. He received some nerfs and a hot-fix so he’s moving back to tier 3. Still great for early game domination and lane control though.
Twitch moved down to hard to place on a team – Twitch got crushed this patch. With the ranged DPS general nerfs, the IE and LW item changes, and his ulti is just terrible now. I don’t see any competitive team ever picking Twitch in their lineup due to these changes on him. He wasn’t in his current state. Riot crossed the line once again and nerfed a champion into oblivion.
Garen moved down to tier 4 – So he got his base damage changed and he got his AD scaling improved. From my understanding the AD scaling works out to be worse in the end in its current state due to his base damage being taken out of the equation. So now not only does his late game still stink, but he’s got a really crappy early and mid game now. It was hard for me to keep him out of hard to place on a team but I feel his ulti, and q still can provide some okay side lane utility.
Xin Zhao moved up in tier 2 – As someone on the forest once said (A forest can be clear-cut and they may leave some smaller tree’s standing as they aren’t worth being logged. They’re now the tallest tree’s in the forest) Aka, when everyone gets nerfed and or changed for the worse, champions who really weren’t altered go up in viability. This is the case for Xin imo. Nothing changed but the meta so he goes up a bit.
Gragas moved down to tier 3 – Removing locket kicked this guy in the nuts. Top that nut kick with a punch in the face with his other nerfs. That’s what happened to Gragas haha. Went from #1 tanky/dps champion to just an average champion. He’s still okay. Still can mess up a team fight but I believe he was hit too hard. He needed a little nerfing, instead he got a lot of nerfing.
Galio moved down to hard to place on a team – I should have honestly done this last patch but it slipped my mind. The last nerfs he received have really made him very, very weak. Even though his ulti is a giant AoE, I’d take a side lane Rammus, Shen, Udyr, Amumu over him any day of the week. He got hit way too hard and I wouldn’t expect to see him on any competitive team.
Heimerdinger moved to hard to place on a team – Just like Galio I should have put him into hard to place last patch. There’s no reason to take him over really any other caster imo. All he does is farm a lot. Expect even when farmed his damage is poor, his scaling is poor, and he lacks any form of escape mechaninsim. He lacks reliable CC and reliable burst.
Fiddlesticks moved down to tier 4 – Granted he got mana changes which were to say the least.. Irrelevant to him as he’s not a mana reliant champion. Any who.. I find him to actually be very lack luster. When I was playing him before and his Drain seemed so amazingly strong but in reality it’s not at all. Almost every single champion has some sort of interrupt or they simply run away from his Drain and now he’s a screen away from the champion he tried to kill and can’t keep up with them. Crowstorm is also a very poor skill now. He’s so squishy and easily interrupted I find Banshee’s is almost needed on him, but then since you have no AP (even if you did the scaling is brutal) you deal no damage come mid game. His current state isn’t very strong.
Ezreal moved up to tier 3 -Those little buffs actually helped out quite a bit. He’s a pretty decent carry. That is all :O
Kayle moved up to tier 3 – She received no buffs but I decided to play her 3-4 times the other day in ranked. I actually did quite well. She can still be a useful champion in the right line up imo. Her only problem is she’s not a fully ranged champion. This can really hurt her early game I find. If that was changed she would be a higher champion on the list.
Eve moved up to tier 3 – SorakaBot has shed light on this champion for everyone to see. Her jungle ability is alright, but then her ability to gank and counter jungle is just so awesome. It forces the other team to either buy a 150g ward or die basically. Then even if they do you can still get some ganks in if you’re a good player. Eve is actually a pretty good champion that I think everyone NA side underestimated for too long.
Kat moved down in hard to place on a team – Her changes were actually massive nerfs to her. She has no early game power now which is what she needs. If she doesn’t snowball and start to carry she’s useless. They made snowballing on her much harder. Hence her dropping down even lower.
AND ITS NOW TIME FOR!!! WHERE THE HELL DOES THAT NEW CHAMP LAND ON ELEMENTZ TIER LIST!!!! /drum roll
Cassiopeia put into hard to place on a team – She really doesn’t excel at any role in the game. She doesn’t DPS well, she doesn’t have really any usable utility to add to a team. She doesn’t can’t dive or tank damage well. She just really doesn’t do anything well. Hence her spot in hard to place on a team.
Le Mat- Messages : 598
Date d'inscription : 31/05/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
je voudrais pas te décevoir, Mat, mais depuis que je joue, Alistar oscille entre le Tier 4 et Hard to Place on a Team... en 6 mois, il a connu en tout et pour tout un minuscule buff...
gwellarion- Messages : 62
Date d'inscription : 31/05/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
ha mais je dis pas le contraire.
Juste Malza a lui reçu des up dans tout les sens. Plus Elemenz dit du mal de Mal, plus il Up.
Pour Alistar, à un moment ou à autre ils vont le up sérieusement.
Par contre Galio et Garen ont chuté comme des merdes. Deux de mes main...
Même si pour Garen, je suis pas aussi convaincu qu'Elementz que ce soit devenu un perso nul à jouer. Enfin à notre niveau.
Juste Malza a lui reçu des up dans tout les sens. Plus Elemenz dit du mal de Mal, plus il Up.
Pour Alistar, à un moment ou à autre ils vont le up sérieusement.
Par contre Galio et Garen ont chuté comme des merdes. Deux de mes main...
Même si pour Garen, je suis pas aussi convaincu qu'Elementz que ce soit devenu un perso nul à jouer. Enfin à notre niveau.
Le Mat- Messages : 598
Date d'inscription : 31/05/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
bah maintenant garen se joue surtout en dps et plus en assiste tank ou tank direct. c'est surtout la qu'il est sont nerf. Après au niveau des dégâts il fait toujours aussi mal voir plus
Soulburner- Messages : 39
Date d'inscription : 21/11/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Peu de chances de voir un Up d'allistar, la prochaine Maj devrait s'attarder au probleme de l'AP...
puis la nouvelle map...
puis le stealth..
bref, on sera deja sur starcraft3 quand allistar sera up...
puis la nouvelle map...
puis le stealth..
bref, on sera deja sur starcraft3 quand allistar sera up...
KuroPotter- Messages : 336
Date d'inscription : 15/06/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Mat!
Elementz explique dans son blog qu'après t'avoir vu jouer Malzahar, il a finalement réalisé qu'il se fourvoyait depuis des mois. Il a immédiatement réagi en mettant à jour ses tiers lists...
Solo queue
* Tier 1 - Pantheon, Corki, Rammus, Cho’Gath, Vlad, Warwick, Kennen, Eve, Shaco, Sion, Janna, Xin Zhao, Kassadin, Akali.
* Tier 2 – Sivir, Ashe, Tristana, Udyr, Kog’Maw, Annie, Miss Fortune, Ezreal, Malphite, Morgana, Anivia, Teemo, Mundo, Zilean, Malzahar, Sona, Nidalee, Ryze, Karthus.
* Tier 3 – Nunu, Urgot, Gragas, Kayle, Lux, Alistar, Fiddlesticks, Poppy, Shen, Master Yi, Galio, Singed, Olaf, Amumu, Swain, Leblanc, Taric, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Heimerdinger.
* Tier 4 – Twisted Fate, Irelia, Veigar, Tyrndamere, Katarina, Nasus, Morde, Twitch, Jax, Trundle, Gangplank, Garen, Casseopia
Premade
* Tier 1: Anivia, Sivir, Ashe, Corki, Annie, Warwick, Shen, Janna, Taric, Kennen, Rammus
* Tier 2: Miss Fortune, Amumu, Morgana, Kassadin, Zilean, Tristana, Kog’Maw, Xin Zhao, Sion, Sona, Shaco, Udyr, Vladimir, Olaf.
* Tier 3: Cho’Gath, Malphite, Pantheon, Twisted Fate, Poppy, Ezreal, Kayle, Karthus, Mal’zahar, Trundle, Eve, Veigar, Akali, Nunu, Gragas, Irelia, Singed, Yi.
* Tier 4: Nasus, Urgot, Teemo, Mordekaiser, Lux, Leblanc, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Gangplank, Garen, Nidalee, Jax, Fiddlesticks.
* Hard to place on a team: Swain, Alistar, Twitch, Ryze, Tryndamere, Mundo, Galio, Heimerdinger, Katarina, Cassiopeia.
Elementz explique dans son blog qu'après t'avoir vu jouer Malzahar, il a finalement réalisé qu'il se fourvoyait depuis des mois. Il a immédiatement réagi en mettant à jour ses tiers lists...
Solo queue
* Tier 1 - Pantheon, Corki, Rammus, Cho’Gath, Vlad, Warwick, Kennen, Eve, Shaco, Sion, Janna, Xin Zhao, Kassadin, Akali.
* Tier 2 – Sivir, Ashe, Tristana, Udyr, Kog’Maw, Annie, Miss Fortune, Ezreal, Malphite, Morgana, Anivia, Teemo, Mundo, Zilean, Malzahar, Sona, Nidalee, Ryze, Karthus.
* Tier 3 – Nunu, Urgot, Gragas, Kayle, Lux, Alistar, Fiddlesticks, Poppy, Shen, Master Yi, Galio, Singed, Olaf, Amumu, Swain, Leblanc, Taric, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Heimerdinger.
* Tier 4 – Twisted Fate, Irelia, Veigar, Tyrndamere, Katarina, Nasus, Morde, Twitch, Jax, Trundle, Gangplank, Garen, Casseopia
- Spoiler:
- Malphite moved down to tier 2 -He got nerfed a bit and his laning power is a bit weaker. Still a strong laner but just not as OP as he was before.
Gragas moved down to tier 3 – Same as Malphite but I feel that since Locket was removed it REALLY hurt his solo queue dominance. Hence him lower down on the list.
Morde moved down to tier 4 – Oh gosh did he get hurt in solo queue. Lane dominance is everything and when you take that away from a champion who 100% relies on his laning phase it REALLY hurts him. It’s a sad day to be Morde.
Twitch moved down to tier 4 – Hmm.. He still has stealth and can gank like a boss which is very good in solo queue but his team fighting ability has gone down a lot. I put him tier 4 because he’s really going to require skill to play and a lot of farm to make up for his nerfs.
Sivir moved up in tier 2 – Q and W own the laning phase. Q and W own team fights. R owns chasing, pushing and fighting. Then she’s got a spell shield. She’s really an awesome solo queue champion.
Sion moved to tier 1 -You.. Can’t.. Stop.. The.. Farm.. And… He’s hard to harass too. 2 second stun on a relatively short CD and his burst is insane as well. He’s really moving up in the world since last patch.
Akali moved to tier 1 – She’s like a melee Anivia I find.. Her laning phase up to level 6 is… Meh.. BUT! If you manage to survive that you’re going to bend some squishies over and really give it to them hard. She carries insanely well once she gets a little farm and her burst is also quite nutty.
Xin’Zhao moved to tier 1 -I feel like no one plays this dude except for a couple of people and only they realize how strong he is in this current Meta game. He’s strong in all area’s. His only weakness is being CCed and even then he still rolls his face on the keyboard and does some legit DPS.
Janna moved to tier 1 -Best support in the game now imo. In competitive and solo queue. Shield is so great on saving people and a great steroid for your ranged carries.
Eve moved to tier 1 -Oh my lord she’s the queen of ganking. Her ability to jungle is “okay” to say the least and she can use some help at the begining. Once she gets a Wriggles and Mobility boots though she can freely kill any part of the jungle, control dragon, and gank like a boss. As long as you get those two items relatively quickly you’re ready crush some kids while being stealthed haha.
Garen moved down to tier 4 – Only can wear one cape of suns.. Nuff said.
Urgot moved to tier 3 – As I mentioned in my draft mode list his early game was slightly nerfed (still really strong though) and his late game was buffed up quite a bit now. So it actually makes him a lot more viable all around. I think Urgot will receive some more nerfs soon enough so start practicing this bad boy :p
Ezreal moved up to tier 2 – His laning phase is pretty good and then once he’s farmed his Q is actually a very very strong skill still. Once you get a BT, Brut, and a Trinity it deals A LOT of damage. Put red buff on that and he can kill/kite the whole enemy team around and then finish them off with a big burst combo of all of his spells. His gaining popularity again and those little buffs + nerfs to others really helped him out.
Malzahar moved up to tier 2 -I underestimated him and was wrong about him. That is all
Kassadin moved down in tier 1 -His ability to carry is still good but I feel he takes more skill to carry with and truly do good with. I’ve seen a lot of “meh” Kass’s and very few “woah” Kass’s. Same reason Anivia isn’t higher in solo queue because she takes a coordinated team and skill to do good with. Kass doesn’t really need a coordinated team because he’s so mobile but still requires a lot of skill to truly do good with.
Teemo moved up in tier 2 -Mushrooms can be sooooo good. If you’re a good Teemo and know how to correctly plant those shrooms and farm up your lane you’re going to be the most annoying champion to deal with while also carrying your team with those auto attacks.
Pantheon no move – He still crushes early game and ganks incredibly well. Two things that rule in solo queue games. I know he got nerfed but to have that power in solo queue is still really amazing.
**New Champ** Casseopia /Medusa – I really find her extremely lack luster and doesn’t really excel at any job or role in the game. All I am going to say is she needs to be changed / buffed imo.
Premade
* Tier 1: Anivia, Sivir, Ashe, Corki, Annie, Warwick, Shen, Janna, Taric, Kennen, Rammus
* Tier 2: Miss Fortune, Amumu, Morgana, Kassadin, Zilean, Tristana, Kog’Maw, Xin Zhao, Sion, Sona, Shaco, Udyr, Vladimir, Olaf.
* Tier 3: Cho’Gath, Malphite, Pantheon, Twisted Fate, Poppy, Ezreal, Kayle, Karthus, Mal’zahar, Trundle, Eve, Veigar, Akali, Nunu, Gragas, Irelia, Singed, Yi.
* Tier 4: Nasus, Urgot, Teemo, Mordekaiser, Lux, Leblanc, Soraka, Blitzcrank, Gangplank, Garen, Nidalee, Jax, Fiddlesticks.
* Hard to place on a team: Swain, Alistar, Twitch, Ryze, Tryndamere, Mundo, Galio, Heimerdinger, Katarina, Cassiopeia.
- Spoiler:
- ***New Review Changes***
Amumu moved up in tier 2 – A lot of other guys got nerfed so since he got nerfed a couple of patches ago he seems a little bit more on par with them so he’s actually gained a little bit more viability since this last patch.
Tristana moved down in tier 2 – Now the reason I moved Trist down has a lot to do with the way ranged champions work. The best ones have AoE damage. Trist is only single target DPS. Granted its from a far range but AoE dps/utility is still king. She’s still an excellent 1v1 champion and is most likely the best 1v1 ranged carry in the game. She’s just lacking when it comes to team fights for the most part.
Kog’Maw moved down in tier 2 – Same reason I moved Trist down. AoE is king and Kog’s lacking solid spamable AoE dps. Great single target auto attacks but since his nerf it doesn’t make up for the power of Ashe, Sivir and Corki.
Sion moved up to tier 2 -Due to the tanky/dps meta and ranged DPS nerfs, Sion is actually a pretty good pick as he’s a very strong laner and he has high burst.
Olaf not moved – His late game got hurt pretty good but his early game is a bit better and his Axes(Q) are a lot better now because they now deal physical damage. So he will not be moving.
Udyr not moved – Udyr is in the same boat Olaf is as they both got nerfed but I feel that his spot on the tier list in terms of how good he is stays the same. A LOT of champions got nerfed but I feel he was one of the least effected ones even though he did get nerfed. He’s still a very viable jungler and tank. Because of this he will not be moving.
Mordekaiser moved down to tier 4 – They nerfed his lane dominance big time with this last nerf. He’s a lot weaker in lane now and doesn’t have the same sustainability. Because of this he’s moving back down into tier 4 as he’s not one of the better tanky/dps choices now.
Nasus moved up in tier 4 – Lots of tanky/dps got nerfed. He’s remained untouched. Only thing holding Nasus back is he requires a bit more farm then anyone else and requires items and farm on his Siphon Strike to truly “feel” tanky and do well. He’s still pretty good and if these nerfs keep up he’ll most likely rise up higher.
Mal’zahar moved up to tier 3 – I have seen a couple Malzahar’s lately and I think I did keep him a bit low as I really didn’t like the feel of him. With his recent buffs and the light EU has shed on how good Malz can be I feel he can sit nicely in tier 3. Not an amazing pick but with the right lineup he can be quite good.
Urgot moved up to tier 4 – Now they may have nerfed his early game slightly, but they actually buffed his late game up big time. I feel he could be viable in a select amount of games with these new buffs. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? URGOT’S NOT THE WORST CHAMP NOW!? I know right?
***New Review Changes***
Sona moved down to tier 2 – The locket removal and nerfs she’s received hit her pretty good. She’s lost a lot of viability but I think she’s still a pretty strong support champion. Just not tier 1 worthy anymore.
Pantheon moved down to tier 3 – He was only moved up to tier 2 before because of his insanely broken HSS damage again. He received some nerfs and a hot-fix so he’s moving back to tier 3. Still great for early game domination and lane control though.
Twitch moved down to hard to place on a team – Twitch got crushed this patch. With the ranged DPS general nerfs, the IE and LW item changes, and his ulti is just terrible now. I don’t see any competitive team ever picking Twitch in their lineup due to these changes on him. He wasn’t in his current state. Riot crossed the line once again and nerfed a champion into oblivion.
Garen moved down to tier 4 – So he got his base damage changed and he got his AD scaling improved. From my understanding the AD scaling works out to be worse in the end in its current state due to his base damage being taken out of the equation. So now not only does his late game still stink, but he’s got a really crappy early and mid game now. It was hard for me to keep him out of hard to place on a team but I feel his ulti, and q still can provide some okay side lane utility.
Xin Zhao moved up in tier 2 – As someone on the forest once said (A forest can be clear-cut and they may leave some smaller tree’s standing as they aren’t worth being logged. They’re now the tallest tree’s in the forest) Aka, when everyone gets nerfed and or changed for the worse, champions who really weren’t altered go up in viability. This is the case for Xin imo. Nothing changed but the meta so he goes up a bit.
Gragas moved down to tier 3 – Removing locket kicked this guy in the nuts. Top that nut kick with a punch in the face with his other nerfs. That’s what happened to Gragas haha. Went from #1 tanky/dps champion to just an average champion. He’s still okay. Still can mess up a team fight but I believe he was hit too hard. He needed a little nerfing, instead he got a lot of nerfing.
Galio moved down to hard to place on a team – I should have honestly done this last patch but it slipped my mind. The last nerfs he received have really made him very, very weak. Even though his ulti is a giant AoE, I’d take a side lane Rammus, Shen, Udyr, Amumu over him any day of the week. He got hit way too hard and I wouldn’t expect to see him on any competitive team.
Heimerdinger moved to hard to place on a team – Just like Galio I should have put him into hard to place last patch. There’s no reason to take him over really any other caster imo. All he does is farm a lot. Expect even when farmed his damage is poor, his scaling is poor, and he lacks any form of escape mechaninsim. He lacks reliable CC and reliable burst.
Fiddlesticks moved down to tier 4 – Granted he got mana changes which were to say the least.. Irrelevant to him as he’s not a mana reliant champion. Any who.. I find him to actually be very lack luster. When I was playing him before and his Drain seemed so amazingly strong but in reality it’s not at all. Almost every single champion has some sort of interrupt or they simply run away from his Drain and now he’s a screen away from the champion he tried to kill and can’t keep up with them. Crowstorm is also a very poor skill now. He’s so squishy and easily interrupted I find Banshee’s is almost needed on him, but then since you have no AP (even if you did the scaling is brutal) you deal no damage come mid game. His current state isn’t very strong.
Ezreal moved up to tier 3 -Those little buffs actually helped out quite a bit. He’s a pretty decent carry. That is all :O
Kayle moved up to tier 3 – She received no buffs but I decided to play her 3-4 times the other day in ranked. I actually did quite well. She can still be a useful champion in the right line up imo. Her only problem is she’s not a fully ranged champion. This can really hurt her early game I find. If that was changed she would be a higher champion on the list.
Eve moved up to tier 3 – SorakaBot has shed light on this champion for everyone to see. Her jungle ability is alright, but then her ability to gank and counter jungle is just so awesome. It forces the other team to either buy a 150g ward or die basically. Then even if they do you can still get some ganks in if you’re a good player. Eve is actually a pretty good champion that I think everyone NA side underestimated for too long.
Kat moved down in hard to place on a team – Her changes were actually massive nerfs to her. She has no early game power now which is what she needs. If she doesn’t snowball and start to carry she’s useless. They made snowballing on her much harder. Hence her dropping down even lower.
AND ITS NOW TIME FOR!!! WHERE THE HELL DOES THAT NEW CHAMP LAND ON ELEMENTZ TIER LIST!!!! /drum roll
Cassiopeia put into hard to place on a team – She really doesn’t excel at any role in the game. She doesn’t DPS well, she doesn’t have really any usable utility to add to a team. She doesn’t can’t dive or tank damage well. She just really doesn’t do anything well. Hence her spot in hard to place on a team.
makemashita- Messages : 559
Date d'inscription : 31/05/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Ce qui donne comme persos toujours puissants (tier 1/2 sur les deux listes), par catégorie (avec en gras les rares élus qui sont dans le tier 1 dans les deux listes) :
AD : Corki, Sivir, Ashe, Xin, Tristana, Kog'Maw, Miss Fortune.
AP : Kennen, Anivia, Annie, Vlad, Sion, Akali.
Tank : Rammus.
Jungle : Warwick, Shaco, Udyr.
Support : Janna, Morgana, Sona, Zilean.
Intéressant, on voit que selon Elementz seul Rammus est un bon tank à la fois en premade et en solo ; faut dire que c'est le rôle qui est certainement le plus "team dependant".
Ca tente quelqu'un d'essayer l'équipe WW/Janna/Rammus/Kennen/Corki ?
AD : Corki, Sivir, Ashe, Xin, Tristana, Kog'Maw, Miss Fortune.
AP : Kennen, Anivia, Annie, Vlad, Sion, Akali.
Tank : Rammus.
Jungle : Warwick, Shaco, Udyr.
Support : Janna, Morgana, Sona, Zilean.
Intéressant, on voit que selon Elementz seul Rammus est un bon tank à la fois en premade et en solo ; faut dire que c'est le rôle qui est certainement le plus "team dependant".
Ca tente quelqu'un d'essayer l'équipe WW/Janna/Rammus/Kennen/Corki ?
Re: Les listes Top Tier
NON !!!!!!
Pourquoi s'en est t'il rendu compte !!!!!????
Maintenant il n'y aura plus de up de Malza !
Bon heureusement il le classe qu'en tier 3 pour le jeu d'équipe. Donc pas de nerf en visu.
Le change log sur Malza est bien ridicule. Se qui devrait nous montrer qu'il ne faut pas toujours écouter Elementz comme paroles sacrées.
Pour la dream team il faut juste que quelqu'un joue Janna...
Pourquoi s'en est t'il rendu compte !!!!!????
Maintenant il n'y aura plus de up de Malza !
Bon heureusement il le classe qu'en tier 3 pour le jeu d'équipe. Donc pas de nerf en visu.
Le change log sur Malza est bien ridicule. Se qui devrait nous montrer qu'il ne faut pas toujours écouter Elementz comme paroles sacrées.
Pour la dream team il faut juste que quelqu'un joue Janna...
Le Mat- Messages : 598
Date d'inscription : 31/05/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Tu te rends bien compte que les nerfs/buffs de Riot n'ont rien à voir avec les listes d'Elementz, Mat ?
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Le Mat a écrit:Pour la dream team il faut juste que quelqu'un joue Janna...
Mais je la joue moi
Heloyse- Messages : 9
Date d'inscription : 21/11/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Mise à jour
Ce qui donne, comme Tier 1 sur les deux listes :
Sivir, Corki, Warwick, Rammus, Shen, Janna.
Et comme Tier 1/2 :
Vlad, Shaco, Sion, Xin Zhao, Kassadin, Ashe, Tristana, Olaf, Udyr, Annie, Zilean, Miss Fortune, Nunu, Morgana, Anivia, Renekton.
- Spoiler:
- LA LISTE D'ELEMENTZ POUR LE PREMADE RANKED 5v5
Au 08/02 :
* Tier 1: Anivia, Sivir, Ashe, Corki, Annie, Warwick, Shen, Janna, Taric, Rammus, Zilean
* Tier 2: Kassadin, Miss Fortune, Amumu, Morgana, Tristana, Sion, Nunu, Udyr, Xin Zhao, Shaco, Olaf, Vladimir, Renekton.
* Tier 3: Cho’Gath, Malphite, Teemo, Swain, Akali, Kennen, Mal’zahar, Pantheon, Twisted Fate, Irelia, Kog’Maw, Poppy, Ezreal, Karthus, Leblanc, Singed, Blitzcrank.
* Tier 4: Nasus, Urgot, Caitlyn, Kayle, Eve, Lux, Karma, Gragas, Mordekaiser, Heimerdinger, Veigar, Sona, Yi, Trundle, Soraka, Jax, Gangplank, Garen, Nidalee, Fiddlesticks.
* Hard to place on a team: Alistar, Twitch, Ryze, Tryndamere, Mundo, Galio, Katarina, Cassiopeia.
Et CELLE DE SOLO QUEUE
Au 10/02 :
Tier 1 - Sivir, Vlad, Corki, Rammus, Nidalee, Shaco, Sion, Janna, Xin Zhao, Kassadin, Akali, Warwick, Cho’Gath, Pantheon, Shen
* Tier 2 – Ashe, Tristana, Olaf, Udyr, Annie, Zilean, Teemo, Miss Fortune, Ezreal, Malphite, Nunu, Morgana, Anivia, Mundo, Renekton, Urgot, Malzahar, Kennen, Gangplank, Ryze
* Tier 3 - Blitzcrank, Swain, Taric, Nasus, Singed, Lux, Trundle, Alistar, Fiddlesticks, Poppy, Kog’Maw, Karthus, Master Yi, Amumu, Heimerdinger, Leblanc, Sona, Soraka, Gragas
* Tier 4 - Twisted Fate, Irelia, Veigar, Caitlyn, Tyrndamere, Katarina, Kayle, Morde, Twitch, Jax, Eve, Galio, Karma, Garen, Casseopia
Ce qui donne, comme Tier 1 sur les deux listes :
Sivir, Corki, Warwick, Rammus, Shen, Janna.
Et comme Tier 1/2 :
Vlad, Shaco, Sion, Xin Zhao, Kassadin, Ashe, Tristana, Olaf, Udyr, Annie, Zilean, Miss Fortune, Nunu, Morgana, Anivia, Renekton.
Re: Les listes Top Tier
du mouvement dans la liste solo queue !! :
* Tier 1 – Irelia, Urgot, Corki, Nidalee, Ryze, Shaco, Sion, Janna, Kassadin, Akali, Swain, Warwick, Rammus, Vlad, Singed, Amumu, Cho’Gath, Shen
* Tier 2 - Ashe, Tristana, Olaf, Udyr, Annie, Zilean, Teemo, Renekton, Sivir, Miss Fortune, Xin Zhao, Ezreal, Malphite, Nunu, Morgana, Anivia, Mundo, Malzahar, Kennen, Gangplank
* Tier 3 - Blitzcrank, Taric, Nasus, Lux, Trundle, Alistar, Fiddlesticks, Poppy, Kog’Maw, Karthus, Master Yi, Pantheon, Heimerdinger, Leblanc, Sona, Soraka, Gragas
* Tier 4 - Twisted Fate, Veigar, Caitlyn, Tyrndamere, Maokai, Katarina, Kayle, Morde, Twitch, Jax, Eve, Galio, Karma, Garen, Casseopia
* Tier 1 – Irelia, Urgot, Corki, Nidalee, Ryze, Shaco, Sion, Janna, Kassadin, Akali, Swain, Warwick, Rammus, Vlad, Singed, Amumu, Cho’Gath, Shen
* Tier 2 - Ashe, Tristana, Olaf, Udyr, Annie, Zilean, Teemo, Renekton, Sivir, Miss Fortune, Xin Zhao, Ezreal, Malphite, Nunu, Morgana, Anivia, Mundo, Malzahar, Kennen, Gangplank
* Tier 3 - Blitzcrank, Taric, Nasus, Lux, Trundle, Alistar, Fiddlesticks, Poppy, Kog’Maw, Karthus, Master Yi, Pantheon, Heimerdinger, Leblanc, Sona, Soraka, Gragas
* Tier 4 - Twisted Fate, Veigar, Caitlyn, Tyrndamere, Maokai, Katarina, Kayle, Morde, Twitch, Jax, Eve, Galio, Karma, Garen, Casseopia
- Spoiler:
- ———————– CHANGE LOG! ———————
Sivir moved down to tier 2 – The Q change really did end up hurting her a lot. For that I feel she should be dropped down.
Vlad moved down in tier 1 – He’s lost a bit of his power but can still dominates Solo Queue.
Rammus moved down in tier 1 – Same as Vlad. Lost a bit of power but nothing so big that they would drop down a tier.
Pantheon moved down to tier 4 – Poor guy just pooped on by Riot RIP Pantheon. You’ll be missed! His HSS just got torn a new one with the duration that it deals damage with now.
Renekton moved up in tier 2 – I feel the his power early game can really snowball you into a win sometimes. People go “Oh my god he’s fed” without realizing he’s not as good mid to late game scaling wise and you can often get a FF win haha.
Xin Zhao moved down to tier 2 – Still good just not seeing that old power he used to have. I know he barely got nerfed but it seems like it’s actually hurt him.
Urgot moved to tier 1 – Land E, press Q 3x’s over someones head, ???, Profit! He’s a very strong early game champion that actually scales into late game decently now. For that I move him to tier 1.
Ryze moved to tier 1 – Tank + DPS all mixed into one? Riot would never make that mistake! Oh wait.. lol. Build pure tank and still dish out a lot of damage!
Singed moved up to tier 1 – This was a move that I feel I should have done a long time ago for this list. Even in a side lane Singed farms like a monster and just keeps the enemy team busy trying to hunt him down or stop him from farming. He’s very hard to kill and has a lot of DPS for a tank too.
Swain moved to tier 1 – I really think Swain is a truly great Solo Queue champion. Once he gets some farm going he’s VERY strong and because of his ultimate he can be INCREDIBLY hard to kill sometimes thus making him almost feel unstoppable sometimes.
Amumu moved to tier 1 – Little buffs really helped the little guy out. I’ve seen Amumu’s been carrying games all on their own lately and doing some insane DPS. For that I move him to tier 1.
Irelia moved to tier 1 – Oh come on. You all saw this one coming. She’s got insane laning power at level 6 and due to her passive she’s INCREDIBLY hard to kill at times. When she has less HP then you she’s actually STRONGER then you and a lot of people get baited into thinking EASY KILL!!! Then get bursted down and sit there going “What the balls just happened..” For that I move her to the top of tier 1.
New Champion time! – Maokai is a tier 4 champion! Requires a lot of farm to really feel useful. He needs a lot of CDR and he’s one of the slowest champs in the game Riot now which really bugs me. I am sure Riot will tweak him to make him a bit better!
makemashita- Messages : 559
Date d'inscription : 31/05/2010
Re: Les listes Top Tier
Tier list pour le 3vs3, par un top elo du genre :
Twisted Treeline Tier List: Lee Sin Era by The Illuminati
Tier 1- Renekton, Nunu, Annie, Singed, Mundo.
Tier 2- Xin Zhao, Jarvan, Warwick, Urgot, Cho’Gath, Anivia, Fiddlesticks, Shaco, Kennen, Nocturne, Olaf, Sion, Poppy, Tryndamere, Gragas.
Tier 3- Amumu, Blitzcrank, Corki, Ezreal, Irelia, Katarina, LeBlanc, Lee Sin, Malphite, Malzahar, Mordekaiser, Nasus, Nidalee, Rammus, Ryze, Shen, Teemo, Trundle, Veigar, Udyr, Garen, Kassadin, Akali.
Tier 4- Janna, Jax, Karthus, Kog’Maw, Lux, Maokai, Master Yi, Miss Fortune, Morgana, Pantheon, Taric, Twisted Fate, Vladimir, Zilean, Alistar, Ashe.
Tier 5- Cassiopeia, Evelynn, Galio, Gangplank, Heimerdinger, Karma, Kayle, Sivir, Sona, Soraka, Swain, Twitch.
Within tiers, heroes are not in order, they are somewhat all equal.
sauce : http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=647123
Twisted Treeline Tier List: Lee Sin Era by The Illuminati
Tier 1- Renekton, Nunu, Annie, Singed, Mundo.
Tier 2- Xin Zhao, Jarvan, Warwick, Urgot, Cho’Gath, Anivia, Fiddlesticks, Shaco, Kennen, Nocturne, Olaf, Sion, Poppy, Tryndamere, Gragas.
Tier 3- Amumu, Blitzcrank, Corki, Ezreal, Irelia, Katarina, LeBlanc, Lee Sin, Malphite, Malzahar, Mordekaiser, Nasus, Nidalee, Rammus, Ryze, Shen, Teemo, Trundle, Veigar, Udyr, Garen, Kassadin, Akali.
Tier 4- Janna, Jax, Karthus, Kog’Maw, Lux, Maokai, Master Yi, Miss Fortune, Morgana, Pantheon, Taric, Twisted Fate, Vladimir, Zilean, Alistar, Ashe.
Tier 5- Cassiopeia, Evelynn, Galio, Gangplank, Heimerdinger, Karma, Kayle, Sivir, Sona, Soraka, Swain, Twitch.
Within tiers, heroes are not in order, they are somewhat all equal.
sauce : http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=647123
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